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Brother of the Hawk
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Newby here
by 1009 ini am new here and briefly want to introduce myself.. my name is michel and i am from the netherlands.
became baptized when i was 14, started pioneering when i got 18 and i've been ms for a number of years.
i married another pioneer and after a while we joined a foreign language congregation.
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The truth just ain't the same any more.
by Julia Orwell inthis has been the sentiment of a few i know who have been full jws for decades.
they say the love is not there like it used to be, and it's become less personal.. anyone heard similar comments from oldies?.
we know the 'truth' ain't the truth in the first place, but i have a feeling there may be a lot of older ones hanging on just because it's all they've ever known, and it the alternative, that there is no paradise around the corner like they've always been taught us unthinkable..
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Funny thing: My wife, NE, just said this same thing to 2 elders that showed up at our house Monday night UNANNOUNCED, [Sorry, we didn't have time to get our daughter's camera for this one]
But she told them that being in since mid-60's, her entire life, that it's just not the same and things have changed around the early 80's. And it was difficult & traumatic going thru the 1975 fiasco. They both said what fiasco? I don't remember any significant pronouncements. Just like it was a programmed response. So she sent them the 1969 Awake that said young ones would not even have time to go to college and get a career because we only had a few years left!
Brother of the Hawk {I will surrender my mind no more, forever]
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NEW video on Youtube MUST SEE! the elder's meeting is ridiculous!
by Newly Enlightened inbrother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
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nonjwspouse, sorry, because of NW's health problem and the one elder I did not know, ( we are beginning to think that he was the CO, because the other elder was my cousin by marriage, only introduced him as John, no last name no introduction as a elder just moved in, no nothing!! Just JOHN! hope I'm wrong, but hey what a way to go,executed by CO). Because we did not know him we did not allow them in the house. They know we cannot walk into a KH because of the health problem, which in itself poses a problem. But I will explain more when I sit down to write the follow up visit to this post.
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
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NEW video on Youtube MUST SEE! the elder's meeting is ridiculous!
by Newly Enlightened inbrother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
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I'm working on a follow-up of what happened after the elders meeting to post, hopefully, this weekend, but last Monday night I had 2 elders show up un-announced and am dealing with our present execution/crucifixion.
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I think I've planted a seed!
by OneDayillBeFree ini could be wrong, but i can't help but be a bit optimistic.last night my parents and i had our "family worship night".
i hate it, and i believe my mother does too.
my dad only does it because he's an elder but last night even he was acting like he didnt want to do it.
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Very well done young one. Remember as a man myself, we tend to think more on the logical side of things, keep approaching your dad from the logical side of things, make his mind work logically. The "new lite" ( July 13) is a very good time to point out that this was apostate thinking 32 years ago, is it logical to think that God would now only make it New lite? or something like that.
NE and I did the very same thing Monday night when 2 elders just showed up, we mentioned the new lite and mentioned that it was considered apostate thinking 32 years go, the one elder, cold fish. The other (My cousin by marriage) was interested in checking that out.
Either way we're fried!!!
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind mo more, forever)
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WT August 15, 2013 QFR - Sitting next to a disfellowshipped child at meetings
by Designer Stubble inpage 8 of the latest wt (insider version) has a whole page dedicated to the question whether it is appropriate to sit next to a disfellowshipped child at meetings.. not sure how to paste this in, but check jw.org.
perhaps someone can do this for me.. horrible, no words really on how pharisee like their cult grip and control has become!.
first of all, without any shame they are talking about disfellowshipped minors.
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ADCMS: Yes when I read that part in CC, I was very sick to think that I use to think that way also. Very heartless!!
affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
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What does your screen name/avatar mean and what does it stand for
by BU2B inand why did you choose it?
if you have a avatar, what is it and why did you pick it?.
ok ill start.
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At a knife and tomahawk competition I was being a smart ass and started calling my shots, well all my called shots stuck, needless to say I did win, picture got posted in the local paper, and that night I was given the name in a ceremony. That's how I got the name. The picture, well I got aquainted with an actor,no one you would know, my friend would be the bartender in a westerns, he was in the movie Wild Hogs, 310 to Yuma and a lot of others , so having this connection, I was told a story about an upcoming movie about Kit Carson's life, and Steven Spielberg was directing it. So the picture was taken to provide a character reference. Well to say the least, this is when the last and big writers walkout happened, the whole project got scraped, for now. My friend has since then invited me to provide some props and appear in a show that the history channel did about Billy the Kid, He wanted me on the set Monday am with several prop bows and moccasins, all of this was to be done in a 30 hour time frame and with any foot sizes for horse riders who were cast yet. I told him It was not going to happen. Since then my friend has had to take a step back from movies, due to a Vietnam war injury. h He said he would let me know it the rumors start to fly again. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. LOL Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I will surrender my mind no more, forever) BTW If you have not already figured it out already, this notation I use is a re worded quote from a famous Indian ( I can say Indian because of who I am) If I remember correctly I think it was Sitting Bull " I will fight no more, forever" I need to double check that source.
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WT August 15, 2013 QFR - Sitting next to a disfellowshipped child at meetings
by Designer Stubble inpage 8 of the latest wt (insider version) has a whole page dedicated to the question whether it is appropriate to sit next to a disfellowshipped child at meetings.. not sure how to paste this in, but check jw.org.
perhaps someone can do this for me.. horrible, no words really on how pharisee like their cult grip and control has become!.
first of all, without any shame they are talking about disfellowshipped minors.
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MY GOD PEOPLE!!! Are the JWS really soooooo brain dead that they have to resort to asking this question!!!!!! It does show how little every Jdubs know about the bible, it's principals, how to apply said principals, and how much they rely on what The GB will dictate to them and how much control the GB has. But in reality, I feel it is not a question from a reader, it is a question of "HOW much control can WE exert in the congregation?" Every JDUB will read this article and view it as "a blessing from god!" Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk ( I WILL SURRENDER MY MIND NO MORE, FOREVER !!!!!!!)
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HI! im new here...
by outofthelionsden ini have been reading post on this forum for many months and i wanted to thank you all for all the great posts and comments that have really helped me get through this hard year of fading.
my husband and i where born in jdubs and almost 1 year ago we started to fade , now that we think about it has been a few years that we were suffering from cognitive dissonance without knowing it.
we feel that finally we have our life back , a life that is just starting.
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Brother of the Hawk
Welcome!! oufthelionsden, will hubby be posting also? I have deep feelings for what you are going through, as NE (my wife) stated, we age going through a very similar thing, right now. One of the two elders who showed up Monday is my cousin by marriage, we became very close, so I thought.
Hang in there it does get better, and better and better and better,. It is very good that you have support, each other. If you ever need to just talk please feel free to PM us. NE and I have been associated with this crazy religion for over 40 years. We understand there are times for private contact. Please feel free to do so.
Welcome to the journey that is the rest of your life's.
Affectionately: Brother of the Hawk (I will surrender my mind no more, forever)
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NEW video on Youtube MUST SEE! the elder's meeting is ridiculous!
by Newly Enlightened inbrother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
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NE here. Sorry, as far as I know it's no longer in print.
Someone in an earlier post mentioned there were a few copies out there. But I wouldn't want to use this site to advertise it.
The title was 'The Devil's triangle' ISBN # 1-59146-001-8